JEN AKS 0:00
Welcome to the Wisdom From Within podcast. My name is Jen Aks, and I am your host. This is where mindset meets bodyset, where we access both so that we can make the most genuine, authentic, empowered impact on those we love and those we serve. Let’s get started.
I am so, so, so excited to be here with you today and have my listeners experience you — and the world experience you. Your work is so amazing. So we’ll start with just a short intro.
Amber is a books and business strategist, multi-best-selling author, speaker, and founder of NGNG Enterprises — No Guts, No Glory. She’s the author of Infinite Impact: The Entrepreneur’s Strategic Guide to Books and Business Success, and the Infinite Impact series, Stories of Alignment, and co-author of The Long Forest Trail with her son Clay. Okay, that’s like a ton. Did I swatch it up?
AMBER VILHAUER 1:17
No, you did great. Thank you. I know it’s a lot.
JEN AKS 1:20
It is a lot. Well, you’ve done a lot in your life, and so much has led you here. And I’ll just say that, from the moment I met you — we talk about this all the time — I just felt such a deep connection to you. And not just your work, but your soul and your heart and your passion and your commitment to people, to humanity. And your work is so much more than books, right? And it is — it’s so beautiful and speaks my language. It’s all about alignment and body wisdom and everything.
And so I really want you to share the core of your work that speaks so beautifully to me on every single level. And everyone you work with — this commitment to alignment and what that means. I think it would be beautiful to start with just: what does that mean to you? Yeah. And why does it matter? Yeah.
AMBER VILHAUER 2:27
Well, it’s kind of an interesting journey because back in 2006, just before I created NGNG, I had no desire or intention to be an entrepreneur. I had no formal business training. It was literally a time where I had some access, through an event, to the online world and some of the gurus that were doing internet marketing. And I just thought, well, this is really interesting and I love a good challenge. So I taught myself code and I built my own little blog and I started blogging about the things that I was learning about, like SEO and persuasive copywriting and ad words and social media.
And then somebody came to me from Canada and said, “Can you help me build a website called Conscious Divas?” And I said, me? Like, I guess, but — all the stress, Jen. I’m like, what do I charge? How do I do this? Like, is this for real? All of my self-worth issues came up because I was a deeply insecure person back then.
And then, you know, all of a sudden, the way that websites found me, books found me. And I had a publisher out in California ask if she could hire me and pay me to teach me how to launch books so I could do it for her authors. And I actually said no for about four months, but she kept coming after me and I said, fine, teach me about books — like, what? Right. And then my website and author clients would say, can you teach me marketing? Can you teach me how to sell? Can you teach — so, over the years, NGNG just grew.
And by the time we were in, let’s say, 2022, I had about 175 active clients at a time. I’m managing a team of almost 40 people, and we were known as book launch experts, probably first. But at that point I’d made about a thousand authors number-one bestsellers, and we had launched at that point over a thousand websites. It was a pretty successful little business, and it was really impactful for me — until everything changed.
Okay, oh my gosh. So in December of — 2023, excuse me — this was right after my son wanted to launch his children’s book, The Long Forest Trail, as a then just-turning-seven-year-old. So he was a best-selling author before I was, which is kind of funny. But then, about a month later, I get this calling from my body. And the message was: it’s time to write the book. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I’ll write the book someday, but this isn’t a good time. You know, you make all of the plans about what you want to do — and then life has other plans for you.
So I was sitting down at my computer and I had writer’s block. And I thought, ah, I don’t want to write a book about how to launch your book. It feels like not what I’m into right now, because I had just done this two-year, very deep dive into psychology and my subconscious and inner child work, and that’s really the mode I was in. So it just felt like I was disinterested in writing a book about how to launch a book — but that’s what my business was about.
And so as I was facing this resistance, Jen, I said, okay, I know resistance now. What is it trying to communicate? And I said, out of the thousands of authors that I’ve spoken to and worked with over the years, what did they all have in common? Instantly, my body said: they were all out of alignment. And I thought, out of alignment — what does that even mean? Like, I said, I don’t even know if I’ve ever spoken those words before. And the body said, teach them alignment. And I’m like, well, I don’t even know what that means, so you’re gonna have to help me out here.
I really, Jen, back then, I just felt like I was crazy — even though I listened to my intuition and I have a very strong relationship with it. But this still just felt like beyond what I was capable of in that moment. So I looked back and I recognized that all of my clients had resistance to marketing and visibility and launching their book. And I thought, well, what do I do to help them overcome that? Oh, well, I teach them this avatar exercise that I learned a million years ago. And by helping my authors come up with one individual — a representative of the collective that they are uniquely designed to impact — then all of a sudden, it’s like: I could do a video for one person. I could write my book for one person. I could send this email out to one person. That’s easy, Amber.
And I thought, well, maybe there’s something to that. And then I had to explore the rest of the framework, which we can dig into. But in short, getting into alignment — by now what I have known the work to be — it means choosing to live in line with your deepest values, beliefs, and needs. And most people don’t know what it is that they actually need. So we walk around, Jen, just feeling like we have these blind spots. Something keeps showing up in my relationships, or my friendships, or financially, or in my health, or in my business.
And so this process of knowing your alignment can help you to meet your own needs, to understand your values — these decision-making filters — and to show up in the world with wholeness. Because when you show up in the world with wholeness, you’re shining your light, you’re in your body fully. You’re not feeling frustration and fear and despair and anger and shame and guilt and all of these lower-level feelings. You’re just showing up as your highest and best self. And don’t you want that for your life? Like, every single day. So alignment is actually pretty important. That’s what we wrote the book about.
JEN AKS 8:32
I mean, wow. There are so many things that you said — it’s so incredible and so exactly right. I mean, it makes sense. I’m curious — there’s a couple of questions that just came up — but I’m curious: do you find that the people that you help get into alignment, when they find that person that they’re serving, is it a reflection of themselves?
AMBER VILHAUER 9:03
100%. And I don’t tell them that immediately because some people are just not ready to do the inner work. And it’s scary to them because of whatever somebody else said. It’s actually not scary to go in there, but we’ve been sort of conditioned otherwise — to want external things and accomplishments and money and cars and stuff. So there has been this cultural conditioning to seek solutions out there. But I’m really happy that we’re in a time where now my work is getting out, your work is getting out, other people’s work is getting out — saying, no, no, the answers are in there.
So I’m still careful, and I meet people where they are with it, because I don’t just do this work with entrepreneurs. I might have a housewife who’s just feeling like, gosh, something is off. I feel like I’m destined for more, but I don’t know what that means. I don’t know how to access it. So she gets into alignment and comes up with a representative of this collective that she can positively influence — whether that’s the barista at Starbucks or what have you. So this is for individuals as much as it can be for entrepreneurs.
But once you see it, you can’t unsee it. And it is a true doorway into you, because a lot of times it just makes sense — the people that you’re uniquely designed to impact are people who are going through what you’ve already been through. The stretching pains, the growth pains, the self-worth, the validation, the self-love, the self-trust. At a certain point, maybe you’ve been further down the road than the people before you. And there are so many people in humanity that need help right now, Jen. It’s like it’s never been more difficult out there. So I’m hoping that people just take a chance and see what this get-into-alignment thing is all about. It’s actually pretty fun, it’s fast, it’s easy. You’ll learn so much about yourself, even if you’re embarking on the journey for business purposes — to make sure that your marketing is actually successful in today’s marketplace.
JEN AKS 11:17
What’s so fascinating about this is that it really feels like — it’s almost like business strategy, but therapy as well. It’s like this healing. And listen, I went through the alignment process and I had that aha where I was like, oh my God, it’s me. Right? Like, please — so great.
I mean, I know you can’t do this because it’s not appropriate. But I could see — this is what I saw in my head — like the boxes, hundreds of them: “it’s me, oh my God, it’s me, oh my God, it’s me.” Of you. Because I could see that just that moment is probably so present in your alignment strategy sessions. And I think it’s so beautiful, because it’s really an approachable way — when we’re talking about it from a third-party standpoint — it’s an approachable way to heal our own selves with such delicacy, right?
AMBER VILHAUER 12:16
Yeah.
JEN AKS 12:17
Because we’re thinking we’re creating this avatar to serve — when really we’re pouring into ourselves — without feeling defensive or guarded, because we don’t really realize that at first.
AMBER VILHAUER 12:30
Yeah, it’s so interesting. Because when I created Heather, my avatar, back when I was 26, 27 years old, I actually had a business consultant that I’d hired and he put me through a 15-hour session. He flew out to my home, and I was exhausted. We went through every aspect of my life and business. And it wasn’t until like one or two in the morning — after I was just smashed, I was so exhausted — that’s when he says, okay, we’re gonna make an avatar for you. And I’m like, what’s an avatar? He had a different approach to it, and I’ve since iterated on it.
But I was back then at a point where I couldn’t overthink it, because he had just broken my brain down throughout the day by design, right — so that I didn’t have a defense system and I could just come out with what wanted to emerge. And that was Heather. And Heather was a stay-at-home mom with two young kids, and she was starting, at one point, to just feel not good about herself. And she thought, I have got to do something. So she decides to start working out. She does yoga and finds inspiration. She starts eating better, she starts feeling better in her body. She starts a little blog to help other moms start to feel good about themselves too, and she tries a little subscription plan.
But it’s so interesting, because she loves the writing, she loves helping people — but the business side, she just implodes. It’s so hard for her. She gets frustrated, she beats herself up all the time. And I imagined this whole day in the life of Heather, even where in the afternoon, after she picks up her kid from school, the younger girl is on the floor playing with her doll, chatty, chatty, chatty to mom. And mom is there folding towels, and in her head, she’s so exhausted and so defeated. She’s shaming herself that she didn’t make more progress at work. She’s behind on dinner. Her husband just texted — he’s gonna be late. She’s holding the weight of the world. And I didn’t know anything about motherhood back then. I was 26. But this was the character that emerged.
And I started doing my entire business development only for Heather. Every email, every speech, every video, every business decision — I only did it for Heather. And I just watched as my company grew and grew and grew and grew, even though I had no experience running a business at all.
But what was crazy about this, Jen, is when I was about 38, 39 — Heather’s age — and this is the loop that I certainly didn’t anticipate — all of a sudden I stepped into the role of motherhood. I was married, and now I had this toddler and I was trying to run this business. And I’m sitting there later on, folding towels, and there’s Clay, and I’m in my head, and I was like, whoa. Like, I am Heather. Oh my God, I created her back then. It just blew my mind, Jen.
And so it’s interesting because your avatar has a whole lifeline. So no matter where you start, you can move around to the different stages of her life and see it through a completely different lens — and you’re still, like, that’s your person moving forward. And so, even at that time, I was able to get wisdom from her, which was really inside of my own self. But wisdom in thinking about: how would I advise Heather in this moment to regain control and pay attention to her kid and to not beat herself up? What would it look like for her to be free from that trapped pattern? And that introspective question — looking at her — helped me to solve it for myself back then.
I mean, we’re getting pretty deep into psychology, but it is — unlike therapy, which I strongly advocate for — it’s a window into yourself. And it’s so much easier to help somebody else, right? It’s easier to guide them, as opposed to wanting to look around and muck around in there. So there are a lot of different applications for it, and it doesn’t mean that you have to bulldoze your life. It’s just more like developing almost a love affair with yourself. You start to just nurture and love and trust yourself, and all of a sudden all of the stuff you’ve been clawing after in the external world just disappears, because you don’t really want for much anymore — because you just feel whole inside. So you can be present and just really enjoy the moment that’s unfolding in front of you. It’s beautiful.
JEN AKS 17:26
Who doesn’t want this, right? It’s such a beautiful framework that you’ve created — and it’s really this reunion and deep, deep understanding with self. I find I just love it so much, and it is deeply psychological. And you were saying that you did all of these courses, which I also find very interesting. Like, everything adds up, everything sort of stacks on itself for your life journey and how you got to this work. Because you said you were doing all of these courses and this inner child work and everything, and then this kind of evolved.
I have a question. When people get into alignment, right, and they have their avatar and they’re serving their avatar — which is really serving themselves — how often throughout the journey do they have to come back to your foundational four, which we should talk about just a little bit? Like, how are they always reminded through the process about themselves? It sounds like you had that “oh my God, it’s me” moment when you were 39. I just wonder how the relationship shifts and evolves — in your experience, with yourself and with your clients — throughout the journey of a few years.
AMBER VILHAUER 18:43
Sure. So a few things there. The Foundational Four framework — number one, it starts with avatar: finding the one person. And it is very intuitively led. So the fact that you’re following Jen tells me that this is going to be easy, easy, easy for you.
So your avatar appears. Then inside of a 20-minute visualization that I can do — I do group sessions, and we actually have one starting tomorrow for anybody that wants to be a part of that experience for free — I also have a group of certified alignment guides that can take you through this visualization in one session too. But it’s 20 minutes, and it helps you see your avatar, create a vision, and understand your why. These are common business pillars that I just turned into a process that can be widely applicable.
So the vision, as it’s taught in business, is like: what are you reaching toward? And it’s like, I want to help 10 million people grow successful brands online or whatever. But a lot of business owners can’t actually ground into that, because it’s so high in the sky, so far — they never know if they hit it. So I propose that your vision is something that can be achievable in any moment, every day. My vision is to help the individual in front of me feel heard, seen, and valued. That’s it. If I can do that, for sure I’m gonna hit the 10-million number — and all the other things will come as a result of it, right? So we identify your real vision of how you want to interact with individuals around you. This impacts how you parent, your spouse if you have one, friends, clients, the world at large. You’ll find so much more harmony in your relationships, it’ll blow your mind.
Why? Usually for an entrepreneur it’s like, well, because I want to help people — which is great. I love your heart of service. But why do you want to help people? There is a need inside of you that is simply unmet. We call it an unmet need, and it is buried in you. It was formed usually in childhood, adolescent years, and that need created a belief. And this belief is how you operate in the world, because the belief fires off these emotions, which fires off your thinking brain that’s trying to problem-solve it, which creates these actions, which creates these outcomes. You don’t have to really understand all of that right now, but just to say: this visualization drops you into your primary unmet need.
And sometimes, Jen, it’s love, or validation, or security, or empowerment. Mine is freedom — which was a surprise to me, because I’m like, I am free in the world. Why would that come up for me? And all of a sudden, when I did the work outside of alignment — because I was curious — I remembered back to when I was like six, seven years old, feeling trapped in my bedroom. My sister, who was older, didn’t like me very much — a lot of door slams — but I think she just resented having to take care of me because my single mom was gone all the time. And I felt trapped in this environment of abandonment, feeling like nobody wanted me, and I was so young.
And I certainly didn’t want to use my voice, because I also learned as a kid that it was safer to be invisible. There was a time when I was 16 where I used my voice for really the first time to share my truth. And I was bullied a lot in high school. For whatever reason, sharing this truth was enough to get me jumped by six girls at a party that was made up for me. And I talk about it in the book. So I just developed this thing of: don’t talk. Don’t share your truth. I felt trapped in that too. So it would make sense that my whole life has been on this search for freedom.
It even interacted with my decision to separate from my marriage, and to move, and to create distance with family members that were not healthy for me. And it has revealed to me so much about — oh, I just needed to feel free inside.
So this alignment, this Foundational Four framework — avatar, vision, why, which is the unmet need — if I can move out into the world, and let’s say, Jen, you’re my Heather — which you are so my Heather — what I would do is really focus every interaction with you on just helping you feel heard, seen, and valued. Because what happens is when Jen feels heard, seen, and valued, it meets her need for freedom. And when Jen’s needs are being met, she’s like a little lightbulb. I mean, it’s amazing. When her needs are met, she then shows up powerfully in the world. And me being the one who emoted that and helped her to achieve that — oh my gosh, what it does in return for me is I feel so free in the world in this moment. Like I could do literally anything. So now Jen and I have this incredible relationship of mutual reciprocation. We’re giving and receiving, and it just keeps elevating to the point where I feel like we could power a third-world country with our energy, Jen.
And that’s kind of the power of alignment. And it doesn’t have to be in a client capacity. Imagine this with your child, your best friend, or your spouse.
The last part of the Foundational Four framework is core values. And I don’t mean to poo-poo that, but if avatar, vision, and why is how you get into alignment, values is how you stay in alignment — it becomes your guardrails.
So the evolution — to end here with your question — is that once you see your alignment, you can’t unsee it. When people keep coming back for more, like tomorrow when I kick off my group alignment program, we’ll have people in that room that have gotten into alignment and done this visualization 12 times. Why would they do that? They see the same avatar every single time. But what happens is they go deeper into their own unmet need and see different applications for it based on whatever is happening in their lives in that moment. It’s like this gift that just keeps giving to you and keeps healing and creating clarity and empowerment. The more you do it, the more bliss you get to experience with it.
JEN AKS 25:18
Yeah. Oh my gosh. Thank you for sharing all of that. I mean, your story — as a child — and that informing this work is so incredibly powerful and vulnerable. And I appreciate you for bringing that into this conversation.
I’m also feeling, as you’re talking and sharing, that obviously everyone listening can feel your energy, right? You are so passionate about this work. And what I keep hearing is it’s because you birthed it — like, it came from your soul. You did this work. And I just think it’s a real testament to why it’s so important. Like, here’s an example of what happens when you listen to your body. When you follow the guidance, look what happens. You heal and create something for the world that is so incredibly beautiful. And you feel that passion because you’ve been there. So I just — well, you created it. It’s amazing.
AMBER VILHAUER 26:24
I mean, I’ve never felt more free in my entire life. And, you know, we were out to dinner less than two weeks ago, and I was sharing with you that I have not been in a relationship since I separated from my husband almost five years ago. And when I hear that out loud, I’m like, oh — but that’s my cultural conditioning speaking. Oh, you gotta get married, you gotta have a relationship, you know. And I’m not knocking relationships, but I’m saying, my truest self is like: I am in such bliss, finally feeling free in my own body, that I can’t even imagine any higher feeling than this right now. And I kind of just want to swim in it for a while.
Because it’s true — I’m not afraid to say what’s in my heart to say. I’m not afraid to show my awkward, quirky, whatever side. I’m not afraid to be too much anymore, because I was for a long time. I don’t feel subservient anymore. I don’t have to let other people have power over me anymore. And these are very real parts of my past.
Yeah. So it’s just really remarkable what it can keep giving to you. And now thousands of people have gotten into alignment just in the last year, year and a half, Jen. And it was so powerful that people wanted to get certified in the work and then do this for their clients. And then we did the Stories of Alignment — the anthology book on September 9th — these powerhouse leaders who got into alignment and just had their whole world open up. So it’s awesome.
And what I feel like my day job still is: I’m still doing branding, I’m helping entrepreneurs create an aligned business and use this as a tool to leverage in their marketing so that they can amplify their authentic voice. And the real work is that when you get right with you, anytime you’re speaking, anytime you’re expressing, anytime you’re just sitting in silence in a room, people can feel the difference. And it’s that feeling that draws your right people in. Those are people just like you, right? Birds of a feather flock together. And so all of a sudden, all of these people — I don’t even have to understand how it works because I don’t — but it’s like there’s just this constant flow of people that I feel so deeply aligned with. They just keep coming and coming and coming. And I just have to sit here thinking, this is the most magical experience. I never in a million years could have imagined that it could be this good and sacred and pure and natural.
But hey, this is what we do. So it begins with alignment, and then a lot of entrepreneurs will use that to grow a very aligned business that is just very generative for them.
JEN AKS 29:16
I love all of that. I have a question — we have a couple of minutes left, so I’d love to just quickly talk about this. You mentioned earlier that your body told you, and you have strong intuition. So if we rewound all the way back — for people who don’t know this is the outcome, everything you have — at the beginning, when people are like, I want that, I want that energy, I want to create that impact, I want to write those books, I want to do all of that: she followed her instincts, her body told her. What did that mean? What does that mean? How did you hear it?
AMBER VILHAUER 30:02
So there are these different voices inside of us, and that doesn’t have to make you feel like a crazy person — it’s just true. And there are a lot of people that used to say this is just woo and weird. And it’s like, okay, now we’re seeing this is evidence-based, science-backed — this is real. So it’s actually not that woo.
The easiest way that I like to describe it is: imagine you’re driving down the road and you take a left turn, and there’s this instinct, this voice that says, I think I was supposed to take a right back there. That is not your thinking brain, because your thinking brain needs to collect evidence to come to a conclusion. There is no evidence that you were supposed to take a right back there. It was just a feeling that you had. That’s the feeling of your intuition. That’s the voice of your intuition.
So that’s the one that I have learned to listen to and prioritize, no matter what. Even in a moment of pressure, when it’s like, it’s time to write the book — I’m like, I don’t want to write the book. Well, you’re gonna write the book. I’m like, okay, I’m writing the book, because this voice told me to write the book. And it’s always speaking to me, Jen. And I have honestly listened to this intuition for a very long time. And sometimes I ignore it and get a slap and I’m like, okay, yep, should have listened to the intuition.
But my thinking brain is trying to keep me safe. It’s like, oh, don’t use your voice, Amber, because the last time you used your voice, you got jumped at a party. So you should just be really introverted, you should be invisible in the world. Danger, danger. Right. Your soul is like, go ahead, go — you have so much to offer to the world. And so, which one are you gonna listen to? And Jen and I are saying: listen to your intuition, because your life will be more magnificent than anything you could ever even imagine. You’re just gonna have to trust it and experiment with it.
JEN AKS 32:02
Yeah. Really quick, and then we’re gonna wrap up. I’m sorry we’re going over. I just want to talk quickly — it’s interesting to me because you came from a place of not feeling seen, heard, or validated — all of that — and then you came into it. So that bridge — and maybe we can come back on a version two here — but if you have a second: I’m curious about how you trusted yourself to start listening, because you came from that place of needing to close down. You talked about the room, and your sister, and the experience at the party — and then how you rebuilt, to then start listening, to get on this journey.
AMBER VILHAUER 32:45
That’s a tough one. Because there was a part of me that built these walls so that nobody could access and hurt this more deeper, vulnerable, innocent side inside of myself. So I learned to maneuver by holding up these walls. And then I was a bit of a chameleon — which is hard to admit out loud. It was not a conscious manipulation; it was an unconscious survival instinct. So I would have my walls up, and then I would mirror you, and it would work. And that’s how I was successful in business.
But it was interesting — I was seen as so confident and successful in business, but when I stepped out of my office, I was like this insecure, wounded bird that was subservient to everybody around me. And I kept wondering, like, what’s up with that? So strange. So it was almost like I was living two sides of myself at any one time — there was this protective instinct, and then there was the more natural me. It’s like there was my brain versus my intuition, and it was just always interweaving. It was so interconnected that I honestly couldn’t feel or sense the difference between the two.
So I did listen to my intuition in many cases, I just wasn’t consciously aware of when I wasn’t. And then I found myself in these weird experiences and circumstances that felt so misaligned — I can say that now — and it just created havoc in my life. But I didn’t know what the root of it was. I didn’t understand why I had so much incongruence in my life.
And then I found — I call him my consciousness coach because there’s no way to label Dimitri — but he started to be the one to really mentor me. With his 30-plus years of work on psychology and subconscious and inner child and all of these different things, I got a masterclass from one of the top practitioners in the world in this work. It was very confusing, but we had to unwind a lot of these stories. I found all sorts of beliefs that were outdated that I wouldn’t choose if I had the choice. I had to do a lot of rewiring, shift my perspective in the world. I mean, this was like two and a half years of deep work that I did.
And that’s not what most people have to do. I had a fair amount of complex PTSD that I was carrying around underneath the castle walls. So there was more there for me to unpack than I think the average person needs to do. But even if you do have complex PTSD, or some really deep trauma, or you were raised by narcissists — whatever the situation is — I hope I can be a beacon of hope for you that you actually can reclaim. You really can live a life of purity that is by your design, not what others have put upon you.
It’s emotional just even saying that. You know, that’s the human experience — we want you to be free. That’s the journey. It’s the hero’s journey.
JEN AKS 36:05
Hence the birds. Yes. I am so grateful for your time and thank you for going over. I know your time is very, very valuable, but this is so valuable — to me, I hope to you, and to anyone. Please, please — oh my gosh — just reach out to Amber. That’s all I gotta say.
AMBER VILHAUER 36:26
Yeah, just be in my world. There’s a lot of incredible — my world is full of Jens. So if you like Jen, you’re gonna like everybody in my community. We’re a very aligned bunch and we’re out to do good in the world and to be better for ourselves and those around us. We can experience that in a lot of different forms, whether it’s alignment or book launches or websites or whatever it is. But maybe start by following me on social media and reach out when you want to. I’m very easy to talk to. I will never make you feel like you’re a number or that I’m rushed. I’m just going to be present with you.
JEN AKS 37:03
So how can people find you? What’s the best way?
AMBER VILHAUER 37:06
Well, I think I’m the only Amber Vilhauer in the world. The challenge is that nobody knows how to say, spell, or remember that. So good luck.
JEN AKS 37:16
Just right here on the screen.
AMBER VILHAUER 37:19
It’s right here on the screen. So just find me on every social network. And if you Google me, you’ll find I have four different websites. And we do have that alignment group coaching experience — it’s four weeks, it kicks off tomorrow, it’s still available, it’s free. So we can drop the link in chat so that you can get access to that. And let’s just get you into alignment. Let’s go.
JEN AKS 37:41
Oh my — let’s go! Your body’s speaking. I mean, how beautifully aligned is that? I mean, I just I love you. I adore you. I’m grateful to you. You’ve been a huge support and guide in my life and will continue to be — and a friend now. And I just, I’m so in. I just love everything that you’re doing.
AMBER VILHAUER 38:01
Thank you. We’ll see you again on the 30th for Jen’s best-selling book launch party, baby. So I’ll be back at least for a few minutes to visit with you then.
JEN AKS 38:12
Absolutely. Oh my God, perfect. All right, Amber. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Appreciate you. Bye. Appreciate you.